Sun May 18, 2014 3:42 pm
Natman Blue wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Simon Lim was sacked by Vincent Tan and was to be replaced by a guy called Mr Chu
Then 48 hours later last week Tan reinstated Simon Lim as CEO.
Vincent Tan will give us one more season to get us back in the Prem if he fails he will walk away from our Club for good, that is exactly what ive been told and hearing.
I am led to believe he wont leave us entirely in the shit but could walk with the parachute payments etc.
To be honest this is my opinion Tan has been made to look bad the world over and has been a bit embarrassing in his home country so if he was to destroy us that would not look good on him.
I understand there was no wrong doing with Malky he and Moody was sacked for personal reasons.
It was never ever anything to do with money, it was a personal thing with Moody and Tan and Malky backed Moody, Tan had private emails on Moody which Malky did not distance himself from and Tan demanded an unreserved apology.
Craig Bellamy is not wanted by Ole, but Tan wants Bellamy to stay at all costs.
Bellamy refused to play for City v Stoke and went of to Florida with his daughter.
Dalman has considered leaving and it is still on the cards.
Tan will leave if we fail to go back up next season.
Tan has employed a new rebranding company regarding the Red and intends not to let up on it, he has no intentions on compromising and the only thing that hurts him not marches, but the demos in the ground, blue in the ground is finally getting to him, but that still wont make him go, he intends to go more Red.
latest news from where nukes? source? it just sounds like all the gossip from this board put in one post. and as sven says, not very accurate and more malicious in intent.
Sun May 18, 2014 3:48 pm
Sven wrote:Forever Blue wrote:City have sold approx 14,500 season tickets plus about 900 Prem for next season,thousands have deserted not because of the rebrand, because NO Man United lol
Of course about 3,000 plus have stopped going over the last 2 years through the rebrand.
We must continue the BLUE protests at every home and away games in the ground, it really does get to him and the world sees it.![]()
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Quote (Forever Blue): "We must continue the BLUE protests at every home and away games in the ground, it really does get to him and the world sees it"
In fairness, I have said this from the start, as it is IMHO the ONLY visible (and non-divisive) way of letting Vincent Tan and his 'advisors' know how the vast majority of fans feel about the BLUE![]()
It may well be that many reluctantly 'accepted' the red "for the sake of the club's existence" a couple of years ago, but that doesn't mean they WANTED it and THAT is where the "Sea of Blue" at the stadium can show Vincent Tan the truth of the matter!
" WE ARE CARDIFF CITY WE WILL ALWAYS BE BLUE "
Sun May 18, 2014 3:49 pm
Forever Blue wrote:City have sold approx 14,500 season tickets plus about 900 Prem for next season,thousands have deserted not because of the rebrand, because NO Man United lol
Of course about 3,000 plus have stopped going over the last 2 years through the rebrand.
We must continue the BLUE protests at every home and away games in the ground, it really does get to him and the world sees it.![]()
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Sun May 18, 2014 3:50 pm
Sun May 18, 2014 3:53 pm
Reza wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:Not everyone is wrong - just you.![]()
And like i said, it went shit as soon as you started making stuff up for no reason.
Cant pay off debt with parachute money? What are you on pal?
If I understand it correctly he can use the money to pay off any debt on the basis we are not in administration if he puts us into administration the football league then does not allow for the debt to be paid to them or am I wrong in that?
Sun May 18, 2014 3:56 pm
Sun May 18, 2014 4:01 pm
AJ1927 wrote:In regards to OP,Steve wouldn't have posted it if it just were idle gossip.
There has to be some element of truth in the matter.
Lim for Chu and Chu for Lim sounds right up Tans Street.
Natman Welcome Back.
What you gonna do with all your aliases now your original has been reinstated.?
Sun May 18, 2014 4:01 pm
Sun May 18, 2014 4:05 pm
llangainbluebird wrote:Forever Blue wrote:City have sold approx 14,500 season tickets plus about 900 Prem for next season,thousands have deserted not because of the rebrand, because NO Man United lol
Of course about 3,000 plus have stopped going over the last 2 years through the rebrand.
We must continue the BLUE protests at every home and away games in the ground, it really does get to him and the world sees it.![]()
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We all know somebody who has stopped going because of the 're-brand', but three thousand plus is quite a startling figure. Is it really that high, Annis? If so, it's worse than I thought.
Now. More than ever, we need them back, to show support for the blue and the future of our club.
Sun May 18, 2014 4:05 pm
Sven wrote:Natman Blue wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Simon Lim was sacked by Vincent Tan and was to be replaced by a guy called Mr Chu
Then 48 hours later last week Tan reinstated Simon Lim as CEO.
Vincent Tan will give us one more season to get us back in the Prem if he fails he will walk away from our Club for good, that is exactly what ive been told and hearing.
I am led to believe he wont leave us entirely in the shit but could walk with the parachute payments etc.
To be honest this is my opinion Tan has been made to look bad the world over and has been a bit embarrassing in his home country so if he was to destroy us that would not look good on him.
I understand there was no wrong doing with Malky he and Moody was sacked for personal reasons.
It was never ever anything to do with money, it was a personal thing with Moody and Tan and Malky backed Moody, Tan had private emails on Moody which Malky did not distance himself from and Tan demanded an unreserved apology.
Craig Bellamy is not wanted by Ole, but Tan wants Bellamy to stay at all costs.
Bellamy refused to play for City v Stoke and went of to Florida with his daughter.
Dalman has considered leaving and it is still on the cards.
Tan will leave if we fail to go back up next season.
Tan has employed a new rebranding company regarding the Red and intends not to let up on it, he has no intentions on compromising and the only thing that hurts him not marches, but the demos in the ground, blue in the ground is finally getting to him, but that still wont make him go, he intends to go more Red.
latest news from where nukes? source? it just sounds like all the gossip from this board put in one post. and as sven says, not very accurate and more malicious in intent.
I didn't say that, Nathan, so please don't use me for your own well-documented agenda. My views are my own and will sometimes cross the great divide regardless of which side they fall on![]()
Nukes is a friend of mine and if i didn't agree with him I would tell him to his face and vice versa. We wouldn't have it any other way!![]()
I don't know whether Nukes is right or wrong, but I was referring to a number of non-specific individuals who have an agenda that doesn't necessarily have the "best interests" of Cardiff City Football Club at heart and some of which I have my doubts are Cardiff City fans at all. These most certainly do not include the likes of Nukes and others who genuinely have the interests of Cardiff City Football Club at heart, even if we don't always agree on how that should be achieved
If some fans were a little more 'open' in their approach to the current situation at our great club, then there would be space to find 'common ground' although I am convinced that with some it will always be a case of "My way or no way" (which is ironically much the same view as the guy who has put c.£140m into the club in the last few years has had until now)
Perhaps if he (Tan) can start trying to find 'compromise' (no matter how small) then it's the least that those that truly have the "best interests" of Cardiff City Football club at heart can by listening and talking respectfully
Forever Blue spoke to Tan recently and (if I understood his words correctly) was a little taken aback at how Tan took time to talk with him whilst others tried to usher him away. He (Forever Blue) has stated that and also added that he has been invited to meet further with Tan and has agreed to do so when/if the offer is confirmed
The reason? He (Forever Blue) can see the value in "talking" as a way to get the fans views across and (equally important) to get the views of Vincent Tan in return. Only then can a way forward be achieved, although that might require the dreaded word "compromise" in order for all to move forward together
Bring it on, I say, because the future of Cardiff City Football Club is what is important to me
Sun May 18, 2014 4:07 pm
carlccfc wrote:Nukes, you are 100% correct that Lim got his marching orders last week but Tan changed his mind and gave him his job back.
Mr Chu is in the club right now and he is one of two people that Tan trusts and we will hear and see a lot more of Chu in the not too distant.
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Sun May 18, 2014 4:08 pm
Forever Blue wrote:llangainbluebird wrote:Forever Blue wrote:City have sold approx 14,500 season tickets plus about 900 Prem for next season,thousands have deserted not because of the rebrand, because NO Man United lol
Of course about 3,000 plus have stopped going over the last 2 years through the rebrand.
We must continue the BLUE protests at every home and away games in the ground, it really does get to him and the world sees it.![]()
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We all know somebody who has stopped going because of the 're-brand', but three thousand plus is quite a startling figure. Is it really that high, Annis? If so, it's worse than I thought.
Now. More than ever, we need them back, to show support for the blue and the future of our club.
Thats whats showing on there database, approx 3,000 from before the rebrand have never purchased tickets again![]()
Sun May 18, 2014 4:09 pm
Natman Blue wrote:Forever Blue wrote:llangainbluebird wrote:Forever Blue wrote:City have sold approx 14,500 season tickets plus about 900 Prem for next season,thousands have deserted not because of the rebrand, because NO Man United lol
Of course about 3,000 plus have stopped going over the last 2 years through the rebrand.
We must continue the BLUE protests at every home and away games in the ground, it really does get to him and the world sees it.![]()
![]()
We all know somebody who has stopped going because of the 're-brand', but three thousand plus is quite a startling figure. Is it really that high, Annis? If so, it's worse than I thought.
Now. More than ever, we need them back, to show support for the blue and the future of our club.
Thats whats showing on there database, approx 3,000 from before the rebrand have never purchased tickets again![]()
honest question. How do you know whats on the database?
Sun May 18, 2014 4:11 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:Sven wrote:
Alex, you are (where this subject is concerned) very bitter and it does you no credit. There are none (as it is now becoming more and more apparent with the revelation that a number of 'stories' circulated in recent times were simply not true) who can be labelled more (your words) as having "lied and twisted situations with ordinary fans" than certain 'fans' themselves![]()
stop talking soft. I like you Chris, but don't call me bitter for suggesting that a Tan has lied. He has lied to supporters. That is a fact.
How would YOU have things move forward in a manner that would 'engage' with the current owner and allow the club to move towards a more harmonious existence?![]()
cut the condescending bold text mate. I can read it well enough without it. I wouldn't 'engage' with this current owner. He is killing this club & the long term future is grim with this man here.
IF after 'talks' with grass root fans he (Tan) is then proven to be what some portray him to be, then at least we will all KNOW it as a FACT rather than being fed agenda-filled gossip by some pretty embittered people![]()
where have I gossiped about anything in this thread?! I base my opinions on facts.
The fact that he has destroyed the identity of this club.
The fact that under his guidance, the club have got into more debt than ever.
The fact that he now admits that he won't transfer debt to equity... Despite this being the reason that most begrudgingly accepted his horrific rebrand.
As usual, I suspect the TRUTH will be somewhere in between and although it appears not to suit you, it might just result in a better understanding of all parties positions and I think anyone who wouldn't want to at least try to 'engage' doesn't have the interests of Cardiff City Football Club at heart![]()
Sadly, I think there are some pretty vocal people on this forum that are in that latter group and your continued comments on the matter suggest YOU are one of them
cry me a f*cking river then. If you don't like my opinions, I suggest you block me. Who on earth do you think you are to tell people that they don't have the best interests of CCFC at heart... Just because you disagree with them?!
Imagine if I had suggested that about anyone who wears a red shirt?!![]()
I normally really respect your views Chris, but am disappointed at your response to my post, to say the least.
All I did was suggest that Tan could lie some more... Seeing as he has already misled/lied to supporters once.
Sun May 18, 2014 4:16 pm
Natman Blue wrote:Sven wrote:Natman Blue wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Simon Lim was sacked by Vincent Tan and was to be replaced by a guy called Mr Chu
Then 48 hours later last week Tan reinstated Simon Lim as CEO.
Vincent Tan will give us one more season to get us back in the Prem if he fails he will walk away from our Club for good, that is exactly what ive been told and hearing.
I am led to believe he wont leave us entirely in the shit but could walk with the parachute payments etc.
To be honest this is my opinion Tan has been made to look bad the world over and has been a bit embarrassing in his home country so if he was to destroy us that would not look good on him.
I understand there was no wrong doing with Malky he and Moody was sacked for personal reasons.
It was never ever anything to do with money, it was a personal thing with Moody and Tan and Malky backed Moody, Tan had private emails on Moody which Malky did not distance himself from and Tan demanded an unreserved apology.
Craig Bellamy is not wanted by Ole, but Tan wants Bellamy to stay at all costs.
Bellamy refused to play for City v Stoke and went of to Florida with his daughter.
Dalman has considered leaving and it is still on the cards.
Tan will leave if we fail to go back up next season.
Tan has employed a new rebranding company regarding the Red and intends not to let up on it, he has no intentions on compromising and the only thing that hurts him not marches, but the demos in the ground, blue in the ground is finally getting to him, but that still wont make him go, he intends to go more Red.
latest news from where nukes? source? it just sounds like all the gossip from this board put in one post. and as sven says, not very accurate and more malicious in intent.
I didn't say that, Nathan, so please don't use me for your own well-documented agenda. My views are my own and will sometimes cross the great divide regardless of which side they fall on![]()
Nukes is a friend of mine and if i didn't agree with him I would tell him to his face and vice versa. We wouldn't have it any other way!![]()
I don't know whether Nukes is right or wrong, but I was referring to a number of non-specific individuals who have an agenda that doesn't necessarily have the "best interests" of Cardiff City Football Club at heart and some of which I have my doubts are Cardiff City fans at all. These most certainly do not include the likes of Nukes and others who genuinely have the interests of Cardiff City Football Club at heart, even if we don't always agree on how that should be achieved
If some fans were a little more 'open' in their approach to the current situation at our great club, then there would be space to find 'common ground' although I am convinced that with some it will always be a case of "My way or no way" (which is ironically much the same view as the guy who has put c.£140m into the club in the last few years has had until now)
Perhaps if he (Tan) can start trying to find 'compromise' (no matter how small) then it's the least that those that truly have the "best interests" of Cardiff City Football club at heart can by listening and talking respectfully
Forever Blue spoke to Tan recently and (if I understood his words correctly) was a little taken aback at how Tan took time to talk with him whilst others tried to usher him away. He (Forever Blue) has stated that and also added that he has been invited to meet further with Tan and has agreed to do so when/if the offer is confirmed
The reason? He (Forever Blue) can see the value in "talking" as a way to get the fans views across and (equally important) to get the views of Vincent Tan in return. Only then can a way forward be achieved, although that might require the dreaded word "compromise" in order for all to move forward together
Bring it on, I say, because the future of Cardiff City Football Club is what is important to me
hi sven. think I perhaps didn't explain myself correctly. I meant some of the rumours on this message board are nothing but malicious, not nukes
be interested a to what you think my agenda is. pm me by all means
Sun May 18, 2014 4:21 pm
Forever Blue wrote:llangainbluebird wrote:Forever Blue wrote:City have sold approx 14,500 season tickets plus about 900 Prem for next season,thousands have deserted not because of the rebrand, because NO Man United lol
Of course about 3,000 plus have stopped going over the last 2 years through the rebrand.
We must continue the BLUE protests at every home and away games in the ground, it really does get to him and the world sees it.![]()
![]()
We all know somebody who has stopped going because of the 're-brand', but three thousand plus is quite a startling figure. Is it really that high, Annis? If so, it's worse than I thought.
Now. More than ever, we need them back, to show support for the blue and the future of our club.
Thats whats showing on there database, approx 3,000 from before the rebrand have never purchased tickets again![]()
Sun May 18, 2014 4:50 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:Simon Lim was sacked by Vincent Tan and was to be replaced by a guy called Mr Chu
Then 48 hours later last week Tan reinstated Simon Lim as CEO.
Vincent Tan will give us one more season to get us back in the Prem if he fails he will walk away from our Club for good, that is exactly what ive been told and hearing.
I am led to believe he wont leave us entirely in the shit but could walk with the parachute payments etc.
Craig Bellamy is not wanted by Ole, but Tan wants Bellamy to stay at all costs.
Bellamy refused to play for City v Stoke and went of to Florida with his daughter.
Dalman has considered leaving and it is still on the cards.
Tan has employed a new rebranding company regarding the Red and intends not to let up on it, he has no intentions on compromising and the only thing that hurts him not marches, but the demos in the ground, blue in the ground is finally getting to him, but that still wont make him go, he intends to go more Red.
Sun May 18, 2014 4:58 pm
Sun May 18, 2014 5:14 pm
Natman Blue wrote:Cheers sven. spot on although colour just doesn't bother me. Will be happy in red and will be happy if we go back to blue
Sun May 18, 2014 5:21 pm
BlueMagic wrote:Hopefully we don't get promoted then so tan and his red fucks off
Sun May 18, 2014 6:08 pm
Sun May 18, 2014 7:20 pm
Sun May 18, 2014 7:33 pm
Roath_Magic_ wrote:You are all barking![]()
Administration? You owe all the money to tan. Give me one reason tan would put you in administration.
Administration being the task where an administrator comes into the club and sells things for what HE thinks is fair, very often at wholesale prices.
Tan will be the master of sales and HE and HE ALONE will be selling your assets... Along with keeping your parachute money of course.
Sun May 18, 2014 7:35 pm
Buchanan's Exocet wrote:Natman Blue wrote:Cheers sven. spot on although colour just doesn't bother me. Will be happy in red and will be happy if we go back to blue
Well in that case stop criticising those posters who DO care about the blue and the badge.
It's tiresome.
You are lucky you don't care.
I desperately wish I didn't.
I haven't watched my club since April 2012 solely due to Tan taking the club I loved away from me. Nor have my family, we all feel the same.
So please keep your antagonism to yourself.
Sun May 18, 2014 7:36 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:Not everyone is wrong - just you.![]()
And like i said, it went shit as soon as you started making stuff up for no reason.
Cant pay off debt with parachute money? What are you on pal?
ffs put link up or rules that says tan can take parachute payments in its entiretee from club? or is it just true because you are never wrong !
Sun May 18, 2014 7:40 pm
Roath_Magic_ wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:Not everyone is wrong - just you.![]()
And like i said, it went shit as soon as you started making stuff up for no reason.
Cant pay off debt with parachute money? What are you on pal?
ffs put link up or rules that says tan can take parachute payments in its entiretee from club? or is it just true because you are never wrong !
I dont need a link, its obvious.
He cant take future parachute payments as he wouldn't have received them yet. Parachute payments are actually over 3 years not 4 years and he can absolutely take the first or second instalment in its entirety being the clubs only creditor.
Anyone saying otherwise is just simply wrong.
Sun May 18, 2014 7:40 pm
PartyWithOle wrote:Thing I hate about Roathie is he makes it about him more than discussing the actual matter, don't care if he's right or not, I prefer the actual matter. Can't help but feel this thread is tripe
Sun May 18, 2014 7:41 pm
Sun May 18, 2014 7:52 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:Simon Lim was sacked by Vincent Tan and was to be replaced by a guy called Mr Chu
Then 48 hours later last week Tan reinstated Simon Lim as CEO.
Vincent Tan will give us one more season to get us back in the Prem if he fails he will walk away from our Club for good, that is exactly what ive been told and hearing.
I am led to believe he wont leave us entirely in the shit but could walk with the parachute payments etc.
To be honest this is my opinion Tan has been made to look bad the world over and has been a bit embarrassing in his home country so if he was to destroy us that would not look good on him.
I understand there was no wrong doing with Malky he and Moody was sacked for personal reasons.
It was never ever anything to do with money, it was a personal thing with Moody and Tan and Malky backed Moody, Tan had private emails on Moody which Malky did not distance himself from and Tan demanded an unreserved apology.
Craig Bellamy is not wanted by Ole, but Tan wants Bellamy to stay at all costs.
Bellamy refused to play for City v Stoke and went of to Florida with his daughter.
Dalman has considered leaving and it is still on the cards.
Tan will leave if we fail to go back up next season.
Tan has employed a new rebranding company regarding the Red and intends not to let up on it, he has no intentions on compromising and the only thing that hurts him not marches, but the demos in the ground, blue in the ground is finally getting to him, but that still wont make him go, he intends to go more Red.
Sun May 18, 2014 9:26 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:Simon Lim was sacked by Vincent Tan and was to be replaced by a guy called Mr Chu
Then 48 hours later last week Tan reinstated Simon Lim as CEO.
Vincent Tan will give us one more season to get us back in the Prem if he fails he will walk away from our Club for good, that is exactly what ive been told and hearing.
I am led to believe he wont leave us entirely in the shit but could walk with the parachute payments etc.
To be honest this is my opinion Tan has been made to look bad the world over and has been a bit embarrassing in his home country so if he was to destroy us that would not look good on him.
I understand there was no wrong doing with Malky he and Moody was sacked for personal reasons.
It was never ever anything to do with money, it was a personal thing with Moody and Tan and Malky backed Moody, Tan had private emails on Moody which Malky did not distance himself from and Tan demanded an unreserved apology.
Craig Bellamy is not wanted by Ole, but Tan wants Bellamy to stay at all costs.
Bellamy refused to play for City v Stoke and went of to Florida with his daughter.
Dalman has considered leaving and it is still on the cards.
Tan will leave if we fail to go back up next season.
Tan has employed a new rebranding company regarding the Red and intends not to let up on it, he has no intentions on compromising and the only thing that hurts him not marches, but the demos in the ground, blue in the ground is finally getting to him, but that still wont make him go, he intends to go more Red.