Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:56 pm
Roath_Magic_ wrote:waddle wrote:We controlled the game in the first half and had all the play but it was just as much palace negativity as our positivity , stats just mirrored that not the quality of football
You didn't think our passing and movement was phenomenal? Many sides have come and been negative, Cardiff for one. Yet we havent dominated anyone like that for as long as I have been supporting Swansea.
Have you ever seen 83% possession from Swansea at half time while only allowing the opposition into the final 3rd once?![]()
It was sensational. If people cant see that then I fear for them if we ever dip down the leagues and start losing 4-0 to the likes of kiddie again
Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:58 pm
waddle wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Amen to to that Waddle a realistic summary
There's no point dressing it up any different , oh and have I mentioned , lita is f*cking shite !!!!!!
Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:01 pm
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:waddle wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Amen to to that Waddle a realistic summary
There's no point dressing it up any different , oh and have I mentioned , lita is f*cking shite !!!!!!
Lita, Emnes and now Chicos banned will Tate be getting a call back
Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:02 pm
waddle wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:waddle wrote:We controlled the game in the first half and had all the play but it was just as much palace negativity as our positivity , stats just mirrored that not the quality of football
You didn't think our passing and movement was phenomenal? Many sides have come and been negative, Cardiff for one. Yet we havent dominated anyone like that for as long as I have been supporting Swansea.
Have you ever seen 83% possession from Swansea at half time while only allowing the opposition into the final 3rd once?![]()
It was sensational. If people cant see that then I fear for them if we ever dip down the leagues and start losing 4-0 to the likes of kiddie again
It wasn't sensational , sensational is Liverpool's first half against arsenal
Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:03 pm
waddle wrote:It wasn't sensational , sensational is Liverpool's first half against arsenal
Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:06 pm
nobby wrote:waddle wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:waddle wrote:We controlled the game in the first half and had all the play but it was just as much palace negativity as our positivity , stats just mirrored that not the quality of football
You didn't think our passing and movement was phenomenal? Many sides have come and been negative, Cardiff for one. Yet we havent dominated anyone like that for as long as I have been supporting Swansea.
Have you ever seen 83% possession from Swansea at half time while only allowing the opposition into the final 3rd once?![]()
It was sensational. If people cant see that then I fear for them if we ever dip down the leagues and start losing 4-0 to the likes of kiddie again
It wasn't sensational , sensational is Liverpool's first half against arsenal
Waddle fair play we've had our ups and downs in the past but I have to be honest I have nothing but respect for you tonight for being honest and disagreeing with the guy whos NEVER wrong.
Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:07 pm
nobby wrote:
Waddle fair play we've had our ups and downs in the past but I have to be honest I have nothing but respect for you tonight for being honest and disagreeing with the guy whos NEVER wrong.
Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:09 pm
Roath_Magic_ wrote:waddle wrote:It wasn't sensational , sensational is Liverpool's first half against arsenal
The football was sensational. The only thing missing was the glut of goals, but with 10 men behind the ball its not a lot more you can do. It took a great save for Bony not to add one just before HT.
This is a team a few places below is in the league, the PREMIER league. 83% posession is insane, it wasnt just knocked back and fore in the defence either as we are accused of by these lot. It was pretty much all in Palaces half as they were so deep, Ince, Bolasie and Ledley all trying desperately to get the ball but we were pinging it around with such accuracy they couldnt get near - thats sensational.
Think there is a touch of the scotsjack about today. Undermining ones own side to score brownie points with the opposition. We were sensational, just as we were against Napoli home.
Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:10 pm
Roath_Magic_ wrote:nobby wrote:
Waddle fair play we've had our ups and downs in the past but I have to be honest I have nothing but respect for you tonight for being honest and disagreeing with the guy whos NEVER wrong.
Its easy to earn respect from Cardiff fans, just tell them what they want to hear![]()
Of course im wrong sometimes. Peoples mistake however is claiming im wrong when im not. That was one of the best 45 minutes ive seen from Swansea in decades and we have been excellent an awful lot of the time
Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:11 pm
waddle wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:waddle wrote:It wasn't sensational , sensational is Liverpool's first half against arsenal
The football was sensational. The only thing missing was the glut of goals, but with 10 men behind the ball its not a lot more you can do. It took a great save for Bony not to add one just before HT.
This is a team a few places below is in the league, the PREMIER league. 83% posession is insane, it wasnt just knocked back and fore in the defence either as we are accused of by these lot. It was pretty much all in Palaces half as they were so deep, Ince, Bolasie and Ledley all trying desperately to get the ball but we were pinging it around with such accuracy they couldnt get near - thats sensational.
Think there is a touch of the scotsjack about today. Undermining ones own side to score brownie points with the opposition. We were sensational, just as we were against Napoli home.
Yeah I'm well known on here for trying to score brownie points , I disagree we were sensational fella get over it ffs
Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:11 pm
waddle wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:waddle wrote:It wasn't sensational , sensational is Liverpool's first half against arsenal
The football was sensational. The only thing missing was the glut of goals, but with 10 men behind the ball its not a lot more you can do. It took a great save for Bony not to add one just before HT.
This is a team a few places below is in the league, the PREMIER league. 83% posession is insane, it wasnt just knocked back and fore in the defence either as we are accused of by these lot. It was pretty much all in Palaces half as they were so deep, Ince, Bolasie and Ledley all trying desperately to get the ball but we were pinging it around with such accuracy they couldnt get near - thats sensational.
Think there is a touch of the scotsjack about today. Undermining ones own side to score brownie points with the opposition. We were sensational, just as we were against Napoli home.
Yeah I'm well known on here for trying to score brownie points , I disagree we were sensational fella get over it ffs
Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:13 pm
nobby wrote:waddle wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:waddle wrote:It wasn't sensational , sensational is Liverpool's first half against arsenal
The football was sensational. The only thing missing was the glut of goals, but with 10 men behind the ball its not a lot more you can do. It took a great save for Bony not to add one just before HT.
This is a team a few places below is in the league, the PREMIER league. 83% posession is insane, it wasnt just knocked back and fore in the defence either as we are accused of by these lot. It was pretty much all in Palaces half as they were so deep, Ince, Bolasie and Ledley all trying desperately to get the ball but we were pinging it around with such accuracy they couldnt get near - thats sensational.
Think there is a touch of the scotsjack about today. Undermining ones own side to score brownie points with the opposition. We were sensational, just as we were against Napoli home.
Yeah I'm well known on here for trying to score brownie points , I disagree we were sensational fella get over it ffs
Waddle hes never wrong num
Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:15 pm
nobby wrote:
To be sensational as you put it and out play Napoli at home etc etc is one thing but the only thing that counts in football is the result and you did not win any of the games that's ehst counts.
possession does not get you points, goals do.
Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:17 pm
Gareth (Wilts) wrote:Please ban roathie no by. He's getting embarrassing. Even the jacks on here cringe when he posts.
Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:19 pm
Roath_Magic_ wrote:nobby wrote:
To be sensational as you put it and out play Napoli at home etc etc is one thing but the only thing that counts in football is the result and you did not win any of the games that's ehst counts.
possession does not get you points, goals do.
Thats not the only thing that counts though is it. If we have 83% possession then it means you are limiting you opponents to 17% possession in a 45 minute period. The less time the opponent has it, the less chance they have to score - the more you have it, the more you have a chance to score.
Balance of play is vital as more often than not, the better team wins. It showed today - we were better first half and we won it 1-0, they were better 2nd half and they won 1-0.
If we can get that performance to 90 mins instead of 45 mins then we will win more than we lose.
As Rodgers says, "get the performances right and the results look after themselves".
Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:22 pm
nobby wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:nobby wrote:
To be sensational as you put it and out play Napoli at home etc etc is one thing but the only thing that counts in football is the result and you did not win any of the games that's ehst counts.
possession does not get you points, goals do.
Thats not the only thing that counts though is it. If we have 83% possession then it means you are limiting you opponents to 17% possession in a 45 minute period. The less time the opponent has it, the less chance they have to score - the more you have it, the more you have a chance to score.
Balance of play is vital as more often than not, the better team wins. It showed today - we were better first half and we won it 1-0, they were better 2nd half and they won 1-0.
If we can get that performance to 90 mins instead of 45 mins then we will win more than we lose.
As Rodgers says, "get the performances right and the results look after themselves".
Shut up you boring tw*t. Goals win games f**k all else. I go to games to wstch goals not possession you deluded tw*t. Even your own fans disagree with you, embarrassing. Im off now got a life unlike some
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Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:38 pm
Roath_Magic_ wrote:nobby wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:nobby wrote:
To be sensational as you put it and out play Napoli at home etc etc is one thing but the only thing that counts in football is the result and you did not win any of the games that's ehst counts.
possession does not get you points, goals do.
Thats not the only thing that counts though is it. If we have 83% possession then it means you are limiting you opponents to 17% possession in a 45 minute period. The less time the opponent has it, the less chance they have to score - the more you have it, the more you have a chance to score.
Balance of play is vital as more often than not, the better team wins. It showed today - we were better first half and we won it 1-0, they were better 2nd half and they won 1-0.
If we can get that performance to 90 mins instead of 45 mins then we will win more than we lose.
As Rodgers says, "get the performances right and the results look after themselves".
Shut up you boring tw*t. Goals win games f**k all else. I go to games to wstch goals not possession you deluded tw*t. Even your own fans disagree with you, embarrassing. Im off now got a life unlike some
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Oh name calling nobby, how clever![]()
So how do you get goals then plebby? Just magic out of the air? How come the best performers in the league score the most goals? Coincidence?
How come the worst performers in the league score the fewest? Again, coincidence?
You are talking bollocks and you know it
How come your not top of the league then or not even top 10. Possesion means f**k all as ive said its goals that count. You got the best posession stats in the league so why aint you top ten then
"Even your own fans" ... You mean just waddle?
Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:40 pm
nobby wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:nobby wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:nobby wrote:
To be sensational as you put it and out play Napoli at home etc etc is one thing but the only thing that counts in football is the result and you did not win any of the games that's ehst counts.
possession does not get you points, goals do.
Thats not the only thing that counts though is it. If we have 83% possession then it means you are limiting you opponents to 17% possession in a 45 minute period. The less time the opponent has it, the less chance they have to score - the more you have it, the more you have a chance to score.
Balance of play is vital as more often than not, the better team wins. It showed today - we were better first half and we won it 1-0, they were better 2nd half and they won 1-0.
If we can get that performance to 90 mins instead of 45 mins then we will win more than we lose.
As Rodgers says, "get the performances right and the results look after themselves".
Shut up you boring tw*t. Goals win games f**k all else. I go to games to wstch goals not possession you deluded tw*t. Even your own fans disagree with you, embarrassing. Im off now got a life unlike some
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Oh name calling nobby, how clever![]()
So how do you get goals then plebby? Just magic out of the air? How come the best performers in the league score the most goals? Coincidence?
How come the worst performers in the league score the fewest? Again, coincidence?
You are talking bollocks and you know it
How come your not top of the league then or not even top 10. Possesion means f**k all as ive said its goals that count. You got the best posession stats in the league so why aint you top ten then
"Even your own fans" ... You mean just waddle?
Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:44 pm
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Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:49 pm
cendl blue wrote:Fair play Roathie you have some stamina you have been on your rivals site nearly all day.
its 9.47am here.
The very thing I debated with you earlier about possession and performance has happened again you have a superior amount of ball and played sensational but you picked up a point at home against a team who are below you in the league you can't gloss over it you make statements and won't ever admit when you're wrong.
but you are leaving out the most important part IN THE FIRST HALF. did I say we played sensational in the second half? No. Did I say we would? No.
I simply said that first half was the most dominant half of football ive seen. 83% possession while holding a winning scoreline would suggest that correct? So what do I have to admit im wrong about?
I have read waddles replys and I don't think he wants brownie points he's just disagreeing with your opinion that's all.
and ive said thats all well and good. However i dont know how anyone can describe it as anything but.
Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:52 pm
Roath_Magic_ wrote:Because Monk has only been in charge for 4 games. im not sure why you are ignoring the excellent play and focussing on the possession. what do you think we were doing? sitting on the ball?
You like facts and the facts say the better the performance the more chance you have of scoring do they not?
So one would assume performance is very important
Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:53 pm
Roath_Magic_ wrote:Because Monk has only been in charge for 4 games. im not sure why you are ignoring the excellent play and focussing on the possession. what do you think we were doing? sitting on the ball?
You like facts and the facts say the better the performance the more chance you have of scoring do they not?
So one would assume performance is very important
Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:54 pm
BobBankLoyalist wrote:Just an idea from someone who didn't watch your game as I was too busy watching us lose again (but put in a better shift than last week.) Everyone with half a brain know when they play Swansea they are not likely to see much of the ball. Pulis obviously knew this. He also would've known that after a tight and tough game away in Italy on Thursday, there was a strong chance fatigue could set in the longer the game went along.
83% possession in 45 minutes is a huge amount but as already stated palace obviously had no intention of chasing shadows but to be a tight unit difficult to break down (typical and effective Pulis tactics).
thats just it, they were chasing shadows. You just said you didnt see the game![]()
It worked, granted via a dodgy penalty but a point is a point regardless how you get it or deserve it.
the penalty came from a miscommunication between vorm and Amat who came on for the ill ashley williams. In the second half our team was depleated with 3 forced subs. Nothing to do with being compact, we went to pieces.
I've said before the only statistic that matters is the final score.
and its not true.
Ask Peyton Manning. Denver QB created a Superbowl record for pass completions in this year's final. He was well on the way to this accomplishment after 2 quarters (half time Roathie!) Final score Denver 8 Seattle 43.
so why is there half time analysis if whatever you say about the first half is made to be incorrect if it changes in the second half? Makes no sense. What happened in the first half HAS already happened and nothing that happens in the second half can affect it. It seems people here cant grasp that.
Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:57 pm
nobby wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:Because Monk has only been in charge for 4 games. im not sure why you are ignoring the excellent play and focussing on the possession. what do you think we were doing? sitting on the ball?
You like facts and the facts say the better the performance the more chance you have of scoring do they not?
So one would assume performance is very important
Fair play you are one dull c**t. Possesion, performance and whatever other bollocks you want to spout mean f**k all, its whats on the score board at the end of the game that counts unfortunately and thats all that matters.
No wonder your own fans and most of tjis board think your wrong. Deluded. Sad and obsessed. And WRONG
Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:04 am
Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:05 am
[/quote]BobBankLoyalist wrote:Just an idea from someone who didn't watch your game as I was too busy watching us lose again (but put in a better shift than last week.) Everyone with half a brain know when they play Swansea they are not likely to see much of the ball. Pulis obviously knew this. He also would've known that after a tight and tough game away in Italy on Thursday, there was a strong chance fatigue could set in the longer the game went along.
83% possession in 45 minutes is a huge amount but as already stated palace obviously had no intention of chasing shadows but to be a tight unit difficult to break down (typical and effective Pulis tactics).
thats just it, they were chasing shadows. You just said you didnt see the game![]()
It worked, granted via a dodgy penalty but a point is a point regardless how you get it or deserve it.
the penalty came from a miscommunication between vorm and Amat who came on for the ill ashley williams. In the second half our team was depleated with 3 forced subs. Nothing to do with being compact, we went to pieces.
I've said before the only statistic that matters is the final score.
and its not true.
Ask Peyton Manning. Denver QB created a Superbowl record for pass completions in this year's final. He was well on the way to this accomplishment after 2 quarters (half time Roathie!) Final score Denver 8 Seattle 43.
so why is there half time analysis if whatever you say about the first half is made to be incorrect if it changes in the second half? Makes no sense. What happened in the first half HAS already happened and nothing that happens in the second half can affect it. It seems people here cant grasp that.
Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:09 am
BobBankLoyalist wrote:
This IS the point which you are making yourself look totally foolish over (and this is coming from someone who on occasions thinks you come out with some reasonable points.)
in your opinion of course, in my eyes people are looking foolish for disagreeing - important point there.
Most people disagree with me only to realise im right all along. I have no issues in standing my ground when i am clearly correct.
Would Manning prefer an individual accolade or would he prefer a winners medal? This is why the only stat that ever matters is the final score regardless of the sport.
it makes absolutely no sense to what we are discussing. If Manning hadnt played well then he wouldn't be in the super bowl - think about it.
Performance looks after the results, not the other way around.
Ps H/T analysis is a time filler. Nothing more, nothing less.
no H/T analysis to describe how the first half went, which i did quite accurately.
Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:10 am