Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:11 am
Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:08 pm
Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:17 pm
northernbluebird wrote:he was ranting and raving all game and needs to keep his temper / emotions under control. he is also complaining that what he said was recorded against him - if he didnt do anything wrong then he has nothing to fear.
he's been a fantastic manager, but this is why he is hated by many fans in the UK - no respect for people trying to do their job. to anyone who thinks they have a right to scream and swear at referees - try and do the job yourself.
Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:22 pm
northernbluebird wrote:he was ranting and raving all game and needs to keep his temper / emotions under control. he is also complaining that what he said was recorded against him - if he didnt do anything wrong then he has nothing to fear.
he's been a fantastic manager, but this is why he is hated by many fans in the UK - no respect for people trying to do their job. to anyone who thinks they have a right to scream and swear at referees - try and do the job yourself.
Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:23 pm
northernbluebird wrote:he was ranting and raving all game and needs to keep his temper / emotions under control. he is also complaining that what he said was recorded against him - if he didnt do anything wrong then he has nothing to fear.
he's been a fantastic manager, but this is why he is hated by many fans in the UK - no respect for people trying to do their job. to anyone who thinks they have a right to scream and swear at referees - try and do the job yourself.
Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:25 pm
Flyingpostman wrote:northernbluebird wrote:he was ranting and raving all game and needs to keep his temper / emotions under control. he is also complaining that what he said was recorded against him - if he didnt do anything wrong then he has nothing to fear.
he's been a fantastic manager, but this is why he is hated by many fans in the UK - no respect for people trying to do their job. to anyone who thinks they have a right to scream and swear at referees - try and do the job yourself.
So what , bit of passion coming from him . Ban doesn't do us any good but the referee was shite and deserved to hear it IMO .
Takes a certain class of person to be a football ref , same as a traffic warden .
Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:26 pm
Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:33 pm
paulh_85 wrote:Flyingpostman wrote:northernbluebird wrote:he was ranting and raving all game and needs to keep his temper / emotions under control. he is also complaining that what he said was recorded against him - if he didnt do anything wrong then he has nothing to fear.
he's been a fantastic manager, but this is why he is hated by many fans in the UK - no respect for people trying to do their job. to anyone who thinks they have a right to scream and swear at referees - try and do the job yourself.
So what , bit of passion coming from him . Ban doesn't do us any good but the referee was shite and deserved to hear it IMO .
Takes a certain class of person to be a football ref , same as a traffic warden .
its a fair point though, you cant rant and rave like that without expecting a ban.
Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:34 pm
dogfound wrote:paulh_85 wrote:Flyingpostman wrote:northernbluebird wrote:he was ranting and raving all game and needs to keep his temper / emotions under control. he is also complaining that what he said was recorded against him - if he didnt do anything wrong then he has nothing to fear.
he's been a fantastic manager, but this is why he is hated by many fans in the UK - no respect for people trying to do their job. to anyone who thinks they have a right to scream and swear at referees - try and do the job yourself.
So what , bit of passion coming from him . Ban doesn't do us any good but the referee was shite and deserved to hear it IMO .
Takes a certain class of person to be a football ref , same as a traffic warden .
its a fair point though, you cant rant and rave like that without expecting a ban.
thing is though the things he was complaining about were there to be seen.by him by us and by the 4th official..did this 4th official not agree and thought the ref had a decent game.?.
no its Warnock and feather in cap time..
Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:35 pm
Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:43 pm
northernbluebird wrote:i knew that my view would be unpopular, and that most people here would dismiss this as further evidence of his 'passion', but try telling that to lowly paid / volunteer referees in sunday league who has to put up with the same 'passion' that people think is fine because of what they see warnock doing.
Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:44 pm
Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:45 pm
northernbluebird wrote:i knew that my view would be unpopular, and that most people here would dismiss this as further evidence of his 'passion', but try telling that to lowly paid / volunteer referees in sunday league who has to put up with the same 'passion' that people think is fine because of what they see warnock doing.
Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:54 pm
1980s Bluebird wrote:But he is not a lowly paid volunteer referee is he, he is a professional referee who is well paid and some of his decisions against whatever club can cost them millions of pounds when it comes to promotion/relegation, people can lose their jobs if a refs decision causes a team to be relegated, clubs can go into turmoil. so yes he is crap and unfortunately referees get away with more than managers do. Refs should be accountable for their terrible decisions, what if a manager wrote down every thing a ref got wrong in the heat of the moment and then presented it to the Referee's leader, would he then be fined etc....would he hell.
Not a job I would do or volunteer to do as standing on the side listening to some parents at little kids footy is enough for me.northernbluebird wrote:i knew that my view would be unpopular, and that most people here would dismiss this as further evidence of his 'passion', but try telling that to lowly paid / volunteer referees in sunday league who has to put up with the same 'passion' that people think is fine because of what they see warnock doing.
Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:14 pm
Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:25 pm
Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:32 pm
Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:07 pm
Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:26 pm
Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:12 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:As far as I know football is the only sport where officials are given abuse from the beginning to the end of a match. There are plenty of sports where terrible decisions are made but if these officials suffered the abuse soccer refs have to go through, the punishment dished out would be a lot more than a fine.
The ref was terrible and should be asked to explain his actions by his superiors. There can never be any excuse for officials suffering abuse from players or managers, and with players constantly trying to con refs as well as managers swearing at them from the touchline, something needs to be done.
If Warnock had been Reading's manager, I am sure the comments on here would be completely different to what has been posted today.
Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:15 pm
DandoCCFC wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:As far as I know football is the only sport where officials are given abuse from the beginning to the end of a match. There are plenty of sports where terrible decisions are made but if these officials suffered the abuse soccer refs have to go through, the punishment dished out would be a lot more than a fine.
The ref was terrible and should be asked to explain his actions by his superiors. There can never be any excuse for officials suffering abuse from players or managers, and with players constantly trying to con refs as well as managers swearing at them from the touchline, something needs to be done.
If Warnock had been Reading's manager, I am sure the comments on here would be completely different to what has been posted today.
Absolute nonsense. Ref's shouldn't be able to escape criticism, players and managers receive it and get on with it and so should they. Just like any of us in our jobs if we are doing s**t we should be criticised and rightfully so.
Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:21 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:All I can say is I hope he got his 2K worth of comments to him. The main official should be charged with impersonation a refferee
Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:24 pm
northernbluebird wrote:i knew that my view would be unpopular, and that most people here would dismiss this as further evidence of his 'passion', but try telling that to lowly paid / volunteer referees in sunday league who has to put up with the same 'passion' that people think is fine because of what they see warnock doing.
Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:32 pm
paulh_85 wrote:DandoCCFC wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:As far as I know football is the only sport where officials are given abuse from the beginning to the end of a match. There are plenty of sports where terrible decisions are made but if these officials suffered the abuse soccer refs have to go through, the punishment dished out would be a lot more than a fine.
The ref was terrible and should be asked to explain his actions by his superiors. There can never be any excuse for officials suffering abuse from players or managers, and with players constantly trying to con refs as well as managers swearing at them from the touchline, something needs to be done.
If Warnock had been Reading's manager, I am sure the comments on here would be completely different to what has been posted today.
Absolute nonsense. Ref's shouldn't be able to escape criticism, players and managers receive it and get on with it and so should they. Just like any of us in our jobs if we are doing s**t we should be criticised and rightfully so.
there is being criticised and being yelled at by some rude fucker calling you every name under the sun.
i dont know what you do for a living, but if your boss shouted across the room calling you a useless c**t that wouldnt be right would it
Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:35 pm
dogfound wrote:paulh_85 wrote:DandoCCFC wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:As far as I know football is the only sport where officials are given abuse from the beginning to the end of a match. There are plenty of sports where terrible decisions are made but if these officials suffered the abuse soccer refs have to go through, the punishment dished out would be a lot more than a fine.
The ref was terrible and should be asked to explain his actions by his superiors. There can never be any excuse for officials suffering abuse from players or managers, and with players constantly trying to con refs as well as managers swearing at them from the touchline, something needs to be done.
If Warnock had been Reading's manager, I am sure the comments on here would be completely different to what has been posted today.
Absolute nonsense. Ref's shouldn't be able to escape criticism, players and managers receive it and get on with it and so should they. Just like any of us in our jobs if we are doing s**t we should be criticised and rightfully so.
there is being criticised and being yelled at by some rude fucker calling you every name under the sun.
i dont know what you do for a living, but if your boss shouted across the room calling you a useless c**t that wouldnt be right would it
you keep saying..shouted at by rude fucker...he swore...called him a c**t....all made up
the ref was a total disgrace...not made up.
i think if it had been a tirad of foul moythed abuse he would be looking at much more than 2k...and..would have seen red earlier.
Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:48 pm
paulh_85 wrote:dogfound wrote:paulh_85 wrote:DandoCCFC wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:As far as I know football is the only sport where officials are given abuse from the beginning to the end of a match. There are plenty of sports where terrible decisions are made but if these officials suffered the abuse soccer refs have to go through, the punishment dished out would be a lot more than a fine.
The ref was terrible and should be asked to explain his actions by his superiors. There can never be any excuse for officials suffering abuse from players or managers, and with players constantly trying to con refs as well as managers swearing at them from the touchline, something needs to be done.
If Warnock had been Reading's manager, I am sure the comments on here would be completely different to what has been posted today.
Absolute nonsense. Ref's shouldn't be able to escape criticism, players and managers receive it and get on with it and so should they. Just like any of us in our jobs if we are doing s**t we should be criticised and rightfully so.
there is being criticised and being yelled at by some rude fucker calling you every name under the sun.
i dont know what you do for a living, but if your boss shouted across the room calling you a useless c**t that wouldnt be right would it
you keep saying..shouted at by rude fucker...he swore...called him a c**t....all made up
the ref was a total disgrace...not made up.
i think if it had been a tirad of foul moythed abuse he would be looking at much more than 2k...and..would have seen red earlier.
well i did say "for example" and the guy above was talking about referees receiving abuse. if the LMA have told warnock not to appeal and pay then i would say he can have no complaints.
Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:55 pm
Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:57 pm
paulh_85 wrote:DandoCCFC wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:As far as I know football is the only sport where officials are given abuse from the beginning to the end of a match. There are plenty of sports where terrible decisions are made but if these officials suffered the abuse soccer refs have to go through, the punishment dished out would be a lot more than a fine.
The ref was terrible and should be asked to explain his actions by his superiors. There can never be any excuse for officials suffering abuse from players or managers, and with players constantly trying to con refs as well as managers swearing at them from the touchline, something needs to be done.
If Warnock had been Reading's manager, I am sure the comments on here would be completely different to what has been posted today.
Absolute nonsense. Ref's shouldn't be able to escape criticism, players and managers receive it and get on with it and so should they. Just like any of us in our jobs if we are doing s**t we should be criticised and rightfully so.
there is being criticised and being yelled at by some rude fucker calling you every name under the sun.
i dont know what you do for a living, but if your boss shouted across the room calling you a useless c**t that wouldnt be right would it
Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:13 pm
DandoCCFC wrote:paulh_85 wrote:DandoCCFC wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:As far as I know football is the only sport where officials are given abuse from the beginning to the end of a match. There are plenty of sports where terrible decisions are made but if these officials suffered the abuse soccer refs have to go through, the punishment dished out would be a lot more than a fine.
The ref was terrible and should be asked to explain his actions by his superiors. There can never be any excuse for officials suffering abuse from players or managers, and with players constantly trying to con refs as well as managers swearing at them from the touchline, something needs to be done.
If Warnock had been Reading's manager, I am sure the comments on here would be completely different to what has been posted today.
Absolute nonsense. Ref's shouldn't be able to escape criticism, players and managers receive it and get on with it and so should they. Just like any of us in our jobs if we are doing s**t we should be criticised and rightfully so.
there is being criticised and being yelled at by some rude fucker calling you every name under the sun.
i dont know what you do for a living, but if your boss shouted across the room calling you a useless c**t that wouldnt be right would it
Criticism not abuse, look at what Warnock said and tell me if that warrants a fine and sending off.
Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:23 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:DandoCCFC wrote:paulh_85 wrote:DandoCCFC wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:As far as I know football is the only sport where officials are given abuse from the beginning to the end of a match. There are plenty of sports where terrible decisions are made but if these officials suffered the abuse soccer refs have to go through, the punishment dished out would be a lot more than a fine.
The ref was terrible and should be asked to explain his actions by his superiors. There can never be any excuse for officials suffering abuse from players or managers, and with players constantly trying to con refs as well as managers swearing at them from the touchline, something needs to be done.
If Warnock had been Reading's manager, I am sure the comments on here would be completely different to what has been posted today.
Absolute nonsense. Ref's shouldn't be able to escape criticism, players and managers receive it and get on with it and so should they. Just like any of us in our jobs if we are doing s**t we should be criticised and rightfully so.
there is being criticised and being yelled at by some rude fucker calling you every name under the sun.
i dont know what you do for a living, but if your boss shouted across the room calling you a useless c**t that wouldnt be right would it
Criticism not abuse, look at what Warnock said and tell me if that warrants a fine and sending off.
I don't know exactly what Warnock said or how he said it. What I do know is he is often seen yelling at officials, red in the face with rage, and looking like his head is about to explode. He is not the only one by a long way. Players are often seen surrounding refs shouting and swearing at them. One minor indiscretion like this in rugby for example, and a penalty can be reversed etc. Only overpaid soccer players who can dive better than Tom Daly are permitted to abuse refs every time they trot out onto the pitch, and I have watched this become worse over the years. About time this is stamped out once and for all.