Do you agree with any of this?

I would really appreciate it if you'd read this - especially some of the older posters as I guess you lived in a Britain that had a better sense of community, respect and people mattered more than money or materialistic goods.

http://tinyurl.com/o5pbdjl

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http://tinyurl.com/kxaf8v2

That should work.

Pretty good read fella only 27 myself and have recently started re evaluating everything I do because I ain't happy deep down

I think I've just accepted its work home work home work home pub football

Work home again and again

It's a boring cycle and nearly everything revolves around money and usually the lack of it fact is this country has become so expensive just to live that people care only about work work work

I had a great upbringing only my dad worked mother didn't need to we done lots as a family and I only had one hour a day on my console I have nephews that live on theirs I asked them if they go out drinking the other day or play football and other sports in the local park and guess what NOPE they just talk to each other in school then all night on the microphones over the x box

I don't have any kids yet but if I ever do I can Assure you mine won't be in all night on their consoles

Sad state of affairs that, that human interaction and fun after school and first drinking session in the park is a massive part of lifes learning curve and whilst I've done stupid things whilst doing those things mentioned I wpuldnt change any of it now, massive part of who I am

Pretty good read fella only 27 myself and have recently started re evaluating everything I do because I ain't happy deep down

I think I've just accepted its work home work home work home pub football

Work home again and again

It's a boring cycle and nearly everything revolves around money and usually the lack of it fact is this country has become so expensive just to live that people care only about work work work

I had a great upbringing only my dad worked mother didn't need to we done lots as a family and I only had one hour a day on my console I have nephews that live on theirs I asked them if they go out drinking the other day or play football and other sports in the local park and guess what NOPE they just talk to each other in school then all night on the microphones over the x box

I don't have any kids yet but if I ever do I can Assure you mine won't be in all night on their consoles

Sad state of affairs that, that human interaction and fun after school and first drinking session in the park is a massive part of lifes learning curve and whilst I've done stupid things whilst doing those things mentioned I wpuldnt change any of it now, massive part of who I am

Thanks and spot on! It takes a lot to reflect and realise you need to make changes but then going ahead and doing what it takes to make those changes takes a lot again. I hope you do as well. I'm selling up most of my belongings now to go and live a life of true quality. Only get one shot at it.

Pretty good read fella only 27 myself and have recently started re evaluating everything I do because I ain't happy deep down

I think I've just accepted its work home work home work home pub football

Work home again and again

It's a boring cycle and nearly everything revolves around money and usually the lack of it fact is this country has become so expensive just to live that people care only about work work work

I had a great upbringing only my dad worked mother didn't need to we done lots as a family and I only had one hour a day on my console I have nephews that live on theirs I asked them if they go out drinking the other day or play football and other sports in the local park and guess what NOPE they just talk to each other in school then all night on the microphones over the x box

I don't have any kids yet but if I ever do I can Assure you mine won't be in all night on their consoles

Sad state of affairs that, that human interaction and fun after school and first drinking session in the park is a massive part of lifes learning curve and whilst I've done stupid things whilst doing those things mentioned I wpuldnt change any of it now, massive part of who I am

Thanks and spot on! It takes a lot to reflect and realise you need to make changes but then going ahead and doing what it takes to make those changes takes a lot again. I hope you do as well. I'm selling up most of my belongings now to go and live a life of true quality. Only get one shot at it.

I've got lazy so my first thing is to get healthy again once my mind is cleansed then hopefully I can start making some other changes

Really good read and agree with most of the comments. I am seriously looking at getting out of the UK because it's not the same as when I was growing up. The main reason is that I'm really pissed off with the volume of immigrants scrounging off us, and dont tell me they dont as I've got a family next door to me who have been hear for ten years and have not contributed a single day's work.

Really good read and agree with most of the comments. I am seriously looking at getting out of the UK because it's not the same as when I was growing up. The main reason is that I'm really pissed off with the volume of immigrants scrounging off us, and dont tell me they dont as I've got a family next door to me who have been hear for ten years and have not contributed a single day's work.

Thanks

One thing I will say though mate, its not just immigrants. Brits are at it too.

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http://tinyurl.com/kxaf8v2

That should work.

However, if you have a utopian view of the United Kingdom, are blindly unable to accept the numerous faults within the United Kingdom People just get on with it Barnett, moaning changes nothing.

How many people can honestly say they know their neighbours? Why is that essential Barnett? I can only speak for myself, but i'm thrilled the neighbours have no interest in my life.

How many people can say they know the people in their street and would help them in time of real need? That kind of mind-set is exactly why I have the perfect neighbours.

At home children are given games consoles rather than spending quality time with their parents because their parents are often too drained from being overworked to spend quality time with them. Let me know when Spain and Portugal finish their ban on games consoles

Why aren’t the working people of this nation revolting or moving abroad? Is there a shortage of grape pickers on the vineyards? The work is here in the UK. The wages are good, be thankful.

When out socialising with others, people are often too wrapped up in their mobile phones than actually enjoying the time spent with the others present This only happens in the UK?


I now plan on obtaining an internationally recognised TEFL certificate and go travelling around the world helping others learn a new language whilst I learn languages and experience new cultures. Enjoy your time off Barnett, try Sao Paolo Maybe you will appreciate the UK more on the arrival back

People just get on with it Barnett, moaning changes nothing.

Neither does apathy. Were are ancestors apathetic in their war efforts? No. If they were you wouldn't exist as the UK would be occupied by Nazi Germany. Apathy, settling, being boring gets you absolutely nowhere. You lose control of who you are, what you want to be and you live your life by the rules imposed by others. Build your own roads. Don't drive on those built by someone else.

Why is that essential Barnett? I can only speak for myself, but i'm thrilled the neighbours have no interest in my life.

Community feeling. The UK has a fractured society, one of the highest violent crime rates in Europe and the lowest senses of community in Europe too. Its no coincidence as all of these social issues play a part in one another and cross over, along with other socio-economic issues.

That kind of mind-set is exactly why I have the perfect neighbours.

Yes, but the norm is far from different.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/th ... 77725.html

Let me know when Spain and Portugal finish their ban on games consoles

This is the exact childish response I alluded to in my actual blog post. Spain and Portugal have healthier ways of life not only in terms of diet but physical activity. They let kids be kids, they encourage them to go out and mix a lot more whereas in the UK there are far more children sat indoors. Again, this is backed up.

The work is here in the UK.

This completely depends on the sector you're in.

The wages are good, be thankful.

For many the wages aren't good. Wages are only as good as the cost of living and the cost of living in the UK is really high. When you pay £700pm on a mortgage (£8400 per annum) and earn £18000, a figure close to what police officers (a demanding job) start on, that is a lot of money. On top of that you have bills, cost of living in terms of food and other commitments. People look at wages and think the more the better when the reality is people should be looking at the calculations and working out what works best in terms of wages = cost of living = disposable income for quality of life.

This only happens in the UK?

Far more prevalent in countries like the UK and America.

Enjoy your time off Barnett, try Sao Paolo Maybe you will appreciate the UK more on the arrival back

And this is again what I always hear. I've travelled before and enjoyed it a lot more than here. People go out of their way to help you abroad whereas here people are too self absorbed in what they're doing to give a damn. Families torn by money and lack of investment in public services has also led to fractured communities and people turning to drugs, comfort eating or alcohol as an escape. Also, using something like Sao Paolo, a place rife with its own problems does not make the UK look any better. It just makes it look like you need to scrape at the bottom of the barrel to prove that the UK is okay. If anything, it supports the argument that people will convince themselves to the point that even they believe it. You are deluding yourself pal.

nothing wrong with Sao Paolo mate, my brother works there

People just get on with it Barnett, moaning changes nothing.

Neither does apathy. Were are ancestors apathetic in their war efforts? No. If they were you wouldn't exist as the UK would be occupied by Nazi Germany. Apathy, settling, being boring gets you absolutely nowhere. You lose control of who you are, what you want to be and you live your life by the rules imposed by others. Build your own roads. Don't drive on those built by someone else.

huh? what has getting on with your life, accepting the system you were born into got anything to do with WW2? Jeez.. your Teaching English as a Foreign Language, take your own advice and build your own road as i'm sure teaching abroad is a very well developed road with few pot-holes

Why is that essential Barnett? I can only speak for myself, but i'm thrilled the neighbours have no interest in my life.

Community feeling. The UK has a fractured society, one of the highest violent crime rates in Europe and the lowest senses of community in Europe too. Its no coincidence as all of these social issues play a part in one another and cross over, along with other socio-economic issues.

I feel safe and always have done in this country

That kind of mind-set is exactly why I have the perfect neighbours.

Yes, but the norm is far from different.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/th ... 77725.html

Let me know when Spain and Portugal finish their ban on games consoles

This is the exact childish response I alluded to in my actual blog post. Spain and Portugal have healthier ways of life not only in terms of diet but physical activity. They let kids be kids, they encourage them to go out and mix a lot more whereas in the UK there are far more children sat indoors. Again, this is backed up.

Parents are responsible for their kids, how I feed them is my responsibility

The work is here in the UK.

This completely depends on the sector you're in.
What would you like the unskilled majority to do abroad then Barnett? What are your recommendations??

The wages are good, be thankful.

For many the wages aren't good. Wages are only as good as the cost of living and the cost of living in the UK is really high. When you pay £700pm on a mortgage (£8400 per annum) and earn £18000, a figure close to what police officers (a demanding job) start on, that is a lot of money. On top of that you have bills, cost of living in terms of food and other commitments. People look at wages and think the more the better when the reality is people should be looking at the calculations and working out what works best in terms of wages = cost of living = disposable income for quality of life.

This only happens in the UK?

Far more prevalent in countries like the UK and America.

Enjoy your time off Barnett, try Sao Paolo Maybe you will appreciate the UK more on the arrival back

And this is again what I always hear. I've travelled before and enjoyed it a lot more than here. People go out of their way to help you abroad whereas here people are too self absorbed in what they're doing to give a damn. Families torn by money and lack of investment in public services has also led to fractured communities and people turning to drugs, comfort eating or alcohol as an escape. Also, using something like Sao Paolo, a place rife with its own problems does not make the UK look any better. It just makes it look like you need to scrape at the bottom of the barrel to prove that the UK is okay. If anything, it supports the argument that people will convince themselves to the point that even they believe it. You are deluding yourself pal.

you enjoyed travelling alot more because you were not working Barnett It's called a holiday

nothing wrong with Sao Paolo mate, my brother works there

But the outskirts of the city has numerous problems with gangs. I just find it hilarious that whenever I mention the faults of the UK people then bring up places that have such issues. I've even had one person trying to justify how good the UK is by saying 'at least its not Iraq' - really? If you have to compare it to Iraq I think that tells you everything you need to know.

All my mates who are enjoying their lives are abroad and said they'd never come back. I'll give links from various sources to maintain balance too.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... broad.html
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2006 ... supplement
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -name.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... urvey.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-24566926
http://www.theguardian.com/money/2011/s ... ife-europe

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/mar/ ... ke-society

The report, by the Riots Communities and Victims Panel, concludes that the riots were fuelled by a range of factors including a lack of opportunities for young people, poor parenting, a failure of the justice system to rehabilitate offenders, materialism and suspicion of the police.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... pline.html
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2011 ... istic-trap
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7262936.stm
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style ... 55035.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... finds.html

^ spot on.

I know you enjoy a little forum spat now and again give me 10 mins to read the links

doesn't matter if Peppa Pig is dubbed in Italian, Spanish whatever. The kids throughout the world are watching the same shit. My daughter's cousins in Ecuador watch the exact same programmes.




Sao Paolo is a great City Barnett, I was being deadly serious when I said you should go

I understand your viewpoint, what I do not understand is the need to bash the UK as all countries have issues.

Also I would say you can drift through life very quickly without putting in the groundwork. The mortgage is important as it is an investment in the future. Other things you are dismissing, like the materialistic nature is soley a UK thing. Completely disagree, people in other countries act in exactly the same way. I am like a travelling salesman for Samsung when I go to Ecuador because everyone wants the phones!!

Good luck Barnett, have a great time

you enjoyed travelling alot more because you were not working Barnett It's called a holiday

This isn't true so stop making slanderous claims. I've posted a long list of sources and a lot of it is based on research but be a fool and bury your head in the sand all you like. The problem is you've been sold a dream by those in power and you believe it all because you're so easily led.

Life abroad is much better. No CCTV everywhere, cheaper cost of living, better looking women who have real tans and don't look orange, lager isn't watered down, people can actually handle their drink, better beaches, better landmarks and more cultural areas that aren't being destroyed by concrete jungles on an ongoing basis, don't get dictated to by the supreme political overlords about what goes in which bin or face a fine whilst airline companies pollute en masse, can travel for hours through beautiful countryside full of fresh air, children can ride their bikes and play football without neighbourhood watch having a hissy fit because they want everyone to have as miserable an existence as them, high taxation for those that want to work as well as high start up costs meaning you need quite a bit in capital to even get going, ridiculously high property prices for houses that are pretty cack and unappealing often with no garden whatsoever or at the very most what resembles a vegetable patch, parks empty cause kids too busy gaming and hanging around outside shops bothering OAP's than actually enjoying themselves because parks are 'boring' - this stems from being spoilt when younger, 6-7 year olds with iPads, the country hardly innovates any more, people full of mental health issues, depressed students meddling with drugs, etc.

£60 fine and 3 points for drifting over the speed limit
Fines for other silly things
CCTV everywhere
Snooping on your communications
You can be arrested for saying or wearing the wrong words

Have fun in your soon to be police state.

All the sensible people leave. That's why there was a mass exodus of doctors and engineers years ago and many still leave even today.

I understand your viewpoint, what I do not understand is the need to bash the UK as all countries have issues.

Because people in the UK often refuse to accept their countries problems or moan about them then big up the UK whilst claiming other countries aren't that great. There's a lot of things other countries do far better than the UK and the UK really isn't as great as people make out. It's the hypocrisy.

Also I would say you can drift through life very quickly without putting in the groundwork. The mortgage is important as it is an investment in the future.

What future? By the time it's paid off you'll be almost dead anyway. I'd rather stick money in an ISA so my children can be private schooled in an international school abroad. I'll invest in their future, people, not bricks and mortar. All I'll need to save up is about £25-40k to get an apartment abroad which provides shelter, a necessity, and then the rest will go into savings. My argument is there is no need for a £150-200k house. It just stems from greed and these people think it will provide happiness. Some of the loneliest people in the world have mansions and they're not happy. Want to know why? Cause they spent their entire life chasing money and now have nobody to share it with.

I understand your viewpoint, what I do not understand is the need to bash the UK as all countries have issues.

Because people in the UK often refuse to accept their countries problems or moan about them then big up the UK whilst claiming other countries aren't that great. There's a lot of things other countries do far better than the UK and the UK really isn't as great as people make out. It's the hypocrisy.

Also I would say you can drift through life very quickly without putting in the groundwork. The mortgage is important as it is an investment in the future.

What future? By the time it's paid off you'll be almost dead anyway. I'd rather stick money in an ISA so my children can be private schooled in an international school abroad. I'll invest in their future, people, not bricks and mortar. All I'll need to save up is about £25-40k to get an apartment abroad which provides shelter, a necessity, and then the rest will go into savings. My argument is there is no need for a £150-200k house. It just stems from greed and these people think it will provide happiness. Some of the loneliest people in the world have mansions and they're not happy. Want to know why? Cause they spent their entire life chasing money and now have nobody to share it with.

you do not have to pay off all the mortgage to make a profit on property

I'll have a look through the latest edition of Mansion Gazette to see the sad faces

25k-40k apartment? http://ee24.com/lithuania/

you do not have to pay off all the mortgage to make a profit on property

True, but you have to commit to a contractual agreement. Why? When I can just save up the money in an account and then buy an apartment outright for £25-40k? Keep deluding yourself that signing up to a mortgage for 30 years is a good thing to do. Of course the government love it because they (well the banks) have got you by the balls so if you ever default they can come and take it off you.



I'll just buy a cheap place, rent it out as a holiday home to generate an income when I'm not there and use the rent to live elsewhere whilst also working to top up my income. Then I'll finish work and head to the beach for an ice cold lager. Enjoy Eastenders.

I'll have a look through the latest edition of Mansion Gazette to see the sad faces

Found a Facebook group for you too.

https://www.facebook.com/RichSingleMen

All full of rich men who are single because they cant trust that women love them for who they are but are only interested in the money. Got all the money in the world but can't trust anyone enough to commit. Sacrificed a life of true happiness with a nice family to chase money.

25k-40k apartment? http://ee24.com/lithuania/

Who said anything about Lithuania?

Plenty of places where you can get a lovely apartment for that price. There is no need for a £150k house. Its just pure greed.

just trying to help, book me up for a holiday when you rent it out


Not bad for 3,500 EURO, after all the admin fees I bet this is in budget https://www.propertyunder20k.com/prty_v ... ty_id=2698

just trying to help, book me up for a holiday when you rent it out


Not bad for 3,500 EURO, after all the admin fees I bet this is in budget https://www.propertyunder20k.com/prty_v ... ty_id=2698

Yeah, that's where I'll be living Thomas.

just trying to help, book me up for a holiday when you rent it out


Not bad for 3,500 EURO, after all the admin fees I bet this is in budget https://www.propertyunder20k.com/prty_v ... ty_id=2698

Yeah, that's where I'll be living Thomas.

have a good time, keep the forum updated mate! Hope you do well on your travels

just trying to help, book me up for a holiday when you rent it out


Not bad for 3,500 EURO, after all the admin fees I bet this is in budget https://www.propertyunder20k.com/prty_v ... ty_id=2698

Yeah, that's where I'll be living Thomas.

have a good time, keep the forum updated mate! Hope you do well on your travels

Thanks mate. Cheers for the good discussion as well. Been a laugh. Was waiting for you to properly bite but you didn't.