" WHO IS RESPONSIBLE ? "

REALLY FOR OUR DIVINDING FANS - ?

WHO IS REALLY BEHIND THE COLOUR AND BADGE CHANGES ?

WHY WONT THE OWNERS AND CLUB LISTEN TO THE FANS ?

DO THE CLUB REALLY WANT A SUCCESSFUL TEAM ?

DO THE CLUB REALLY RESPECT THEIR FANS ?

WHAT WILL 2014 - 2015 PEND OUT FOR FANS COLOUR BADGE AND HERITAGE ?

FIRST SEASON IN 30 YEARS THAT I REALLY NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO AND JUST REALISED HOW MUCH OUR CLUB AS BEEN RIPPED APART

REALLY FOR OUR DIVINDING FANS - ?

WHO IS REALLY BEHIND THE COLOUR AND BADGE CHANGES ?

WHY WONT THE OWNERS AND CLUB LISTEN TO THE FANS ?

DO THE CLUB REALLY WANT A SUCCESSFUL TEAM ?

DO THE CLUB REALLY RESPECT THEIR FANS ?

WHAT WILL 2014 - 2015 PEND OUT FOR FANS COLOUR BADGE AND HERITAGE ?

FIRST SEASON IN 30 YEARS THAT I REALLY NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO AND JUST REALISED HOW MUCH OUR CLUB AS BEEN RIPPED APART

Stripping of our Identity divided the fans beyond, we have always had a divide, but this is the biggest one,we have ever had.

Vincent Tan and his original advisors, now nearly all gone.

Because Tan is use to getting what he wants.

Yes they do want a successful team

No Respect whats so ever

Hopefully the stands stay strong on regarding our identity, but still support our manager and team

REALLY FOR OUR DIVINDING FANS - ?

WHO IS REALLY BEHIND THE COLOUR AND BADGE CHANGES ?

WHY WONT THE OWNERS AND CLUB LISTEN TO THE FANS ?

DO THE CLUB REALLY WANT A SUCCESSFUL TEAM ?

DO THE CLUB REALLY RESPECT THEIR FANS ?

WHAT WILL 2014 - 2015 PEND OUT FOR FANS COLOUR BADGE AND HERITAGE ?

FIRST SEASON IN 30 YEARS THAT I REALLY NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO AND JUST REALISED HOW MUCH OUR CLUB AS BEEN RIPPED APART

Someone with tans ear or tan himself. It all smacks of pride to me now.
He/they wont back down so they dont lose face
The lack of profits from merchandise should of been the last straw.
Its ludicrous.

Though strangely im really looking forward to this season now. Leeds away is my favourite

Mallo, Our club seriously needs to listen to the fans if they want to unite us

Its Never to late

Him and Him alone...

It's Tan and him only although one or two have taken advantage of it.

I just hope the fans continue their protests that were visible come the end of last season. I really hope they dont fall for this "support your team" rubbish coming from those who are just too blind to see what Tan is trying to do.

It's Tan and him only although one or two have taken advantage of it.

I just hope the fans continue their protests that were visible come the end of last season. I really hope they dont fall for this "support your team" rubbish coming from those who are just too blind to see what Tan is trying to do.

So did tan tell you to threaten me and my ilk last night?

REALLY FOR OUR DIVINDING FANS - ?

WHO IS REALLY BEHIND THE COLOUR AND BADGE CHANGES ?

WHY WONT THE OWNERS AND CLUB LISTEN TO THE FANS ?

DO THE CLUB REALLY WANT A SUCCESSFUL TEAM ?

DO THE CLUB REALLY RESPECT THEIR FANS ?

WHAT WILL 2014 - 2015 PEND OUT FOR FANS COLOUR BADGE AND HERITAGE ?

FIRST SEASON IN 30 YEARS THAT I REALLY NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO AND JUST REALISED HOW MUCH OUR CLUB AS BEEN RIPPED APART

Just Vincent Tan and his unique way of thinking answers most of those questions.

It's Tan and him only although one or two have taken advantage of it.

I just hope the fans continue their protests that were visible come the end of last season. I really hope they dont fall for this "support your team" rubbish coming from those who are just too blind to see what Tan is trying to do.

So did tan tell you to threaten me and my ilk last night?

What are you suggesting?

Who has been threatened?

The only City fans I have ever known to be threatened were those who wore Blue and thankfully that has now stopped.

REALLY FOR OUR DIVINDING FANS - ?

WHO IS REALLY BEHIND THE COLOUR AND BADGE CHANGES ? Vinny

WHY WONT THE OWNERS AND CLUB LISTEN TO THE FANS ? Because us fans mean nothing in today's age

DO THE CLUB REALLY WANT A SUCCESSFUL TEAM ? Successful = Making bucket loads of money for Vinny

DO THE CLUB REALLY RESPECT THEIR FANS ? Not in the slightest

WHAT WILL 2014 - 2015 PEND OUT FOR FANS COLOUR BADGE AND HERITAGE ? A massive devide between club and fans

FIRST SEASON IN 30 YEARS THAT I REALLY NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO AND JUST REALISED HOW MUCH OUR CLUB AS BEEN RIPPED APART

. Agreed Chief.

One man to blame. Vinny.

It's Tan and him only although one or two have taken advantage of it.

I just hope the fans continue their protests that were visible come the end of last season. I really hope they dont fall for this "support your team" rubbish coming from those who are just too blind to see what Tan is trying to do.

So did tan tell you to threaten me and my ilk last night?

What are you suggesting?

This was a threat to anyone who thinks differently to you, hence why you later deleted it;

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One man to blame. Vinny.

Gareth, at the end of the day the buck stops with him.

REALLY FOR OUR DIVINDING FANS - ?

The fans themselves, no one else

WHO IS REALLY BEHIND THE COLOUR AND BADGE CHANGES ?

VT

WHY WONT THE OWNERS AND CLUB LISTEN TO THE FANS ?

Dont know but I'll hazard a guess: because many fans are narrow-minded, self-centered idiots

DO THE CLUB REALLY WANT A SUCCESSFUL TEAM ?

Of course, it would be stupid not to

DO THE CLUB REALLY RESPECT THEIR FANS ?

Not really

WHAT WILL 2014 - 2015 PEND OUT FOR FANS COLOUR BADGE AND HERITAGE ?

Our heritage will always be there. Not sure about the badge.

FIRST SEASON IN 30 YEARS THAT I REALLY NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO AND JUST REALISED HOW MUCH OUR CLUB AS BEEN RIPPED APART

I'm sorry for you but you always have a choice.

It's Tan and him only although one or two have taken advantage of it.

I just hope the fans continue their protests that were visible come the end of last season. I really hope they dont fall for this "support your team" rubbish coming from those who are just too blind to see what Tan is trying to do.

So did tan tell you to threaten me and my ilk last night?

What are you suggesting?

This was a threat to anyone who thinks differently to you, hence why you later deleted it;

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For a start I didn't delete anything so stop stirring and get your facts right. Although I will say my post has been edited.

That is not a threat. Where am I indicating that I am going to do anything?
I can honestly see bad feeling over this and if you think different then you are deluded.

Natman made Numerous complaints, including contacting me on FB asking/complaining, so I edited to make Natman happy

Natman made Numerous complaints, including contacting me on FB asking/complaining, so I edited to make Natman happy

Thanks for this Annis. I have no problem with that.

What I have a problem with is Natman Blue accusing me of deleting it. Now I know that he approached you this just goes to show what lengths he will go to stir trouble up.

Natman made Numerous complaints, including contacting me on FB asking/complaining, so I edited to make Natman happy

Thanks for this Annis. I have no problem with that.

What I have a problem with is Natman Blue accusing me of deleting it. Now I know that he approached you this just goes to show what lengths he will go to stir trouble up.

if the post is there one minute then gone the next then surely assuming you edited it yourself is the logical explanation isnt it?

Natman made Numerous complaints, including contacting me on FB asking/complaining, so I edited to make Natman happy

Thanks for this Annis. I have no problem with that.

What I have a problem with is Natman Blue accusing me of deleting it. Now I know that he approached you this just goes to show what lengths he will go to stir trouble up.

Yes Ian, I can confirm I edited it after numerous complaints by Natman.

Natman made Numerous complaints, including contacting me on FB asking/complaining, so I edited to make Natman happy

Thanks for this Annis. I have no problem with that.

What I have a problem with is Natman Blue accusing me of deleting it. Now I know that he approached you this just goes to show what lengths he will go to stir trouble up.

Lengths to stir up trouble???? Of course, that's why I went to the guy whose forum this is to sort it out. He obviously thought there was something in it otherwise he wouldn't have deleted it to cover your ass.

Natman made Numerous complaints, including contacting me on FB asking/complaining, so I edited to make Natman happy

Thanks for this Annis. I have no problem with that.

What I have a problem with is Natman Blue accusing me of deleting it. Now I know that he approached you this just goes to show what lengths he will go to stir trouble up.

Lengths to stir up trouble???? Of course, that's why I went to the guy whose forum this is to sort it out. He obviously thought there was something in it otherwise he wouldn't have deleted it to cover your ass.

Bro, Me and you are not trouble stirrers, we say it as it is. I got your back

Natman made Numerous complaints, including contacting me on FB asking/complaining, so I edited to make Natman happy

Thanks for this Annis. I have no problem with that.

What I have a problem with is Natman Blue accusing me of deleting it. Now I know that he approached you this just goes to show what lengths he will go to stir trouble up.

Lengths to stir up trouble???? Of course, that's why I went to the guy whose forum this is to sort it out. He obviously thought there was something in it otherwise he wouldn't have deleted it to cover your ass.

Bro, Me and you are not trouble stirrers, we say it as it is. I got your back

Got his Cock more like

Natman made Numerous complaints, including contacting me on FB asking/complaining, so I edited to make Natman happy

Thanks for this Annis. I have no problem with that.

What I have a problem with is Natman Blue accusing me of deleting it. Now I know that he approached you this just goes to show what lengths he will go to stir trouble up.

Lengths to stir up trouble???? Of course, that's why I went to the guy whose forum this is to sort it out. He obviously thought there was something in it otherwise he wouldn't have deleted it to cover your ass.

As I said take it further now we know you have kept a copy. How sad are you keeping copies.

Our fans have been divided pretty much since time began. Tan is just yet another cause of it to go along with the many others.

Look at how many message boards we have because we couldn't get along!

It's Tan and him only although one or two have taken advantage of it.

I just hope the fans continue their protests that were visible come the end of last season. I really hope they dont fall for this "support your team" rubbish coming from those who are just too blind to see what Tan is trying to do.

So did tan tell you to threaten me and my ilk last night?

What are you suggesting?

This was a threat to anyone who thinks differently to you, hence why you later deleted it;

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What an awful thing to say and I will add that anyone who isn't as passionate about blue is subjected to similar (but perhaps less onerous) remarks. As I said the other day some are now afraid to wear any red merchandise into the CCS and I certainly have reservations about doing so (I have blue merch as well which I wear).

Natman made Numerous complaints, including contacting me on FB asking/complaining, so I edited to make Natman happy

Thanks for this Annis. I have no problem with that.

What I have a problem with is Natman Blue accusing me of deleting it. Now I know that he approached you this just goes to show what lengths he will go to stir trouble up.

Lengths to stir up trouble???? Of course, that's why I went to the guy whose forum this is to sort it out. He obviously thought there was something in it otherwise he wouldn't have deleted it to cover your ass.

As I said take it further now we know you have kept a copy. How sad are you keeping copies.

Not sad, just well experienced in how this forum works. Things are said which shouldn't be said and then deleted to cover tracks, these things are then denied at a later date.

Natman made Numerous complaints, including contacting me on FB asking/complaining, so I edited to make Natman happy

Thanks for this Annis. I have no problem with that.

What I have a problem with is Natman Blue accusing me of deleting it. Now I know that he approached you this just goes to show what lengths he will go to stir trouble up.

Yes Ian, I can confirm I edited it after numerous complaints by Natman.

Numerous complaints???? PMs weren't working and any report made on here was getting deleted. You'd told me you were away so for all I knew ian could have been deleting them himself to cover himself.

" WHO IS RESPONSIBLE ? "

TAN

I genuinely don't believe Tan is fully alone in this. Before I go on a rampage - I'm not defending him, this is just my opinion

Tan came and saved the club, welcomed with open arms, and brought finances we badly needed at the time. He must have loved the attention, and adoration he got for keeping us afloat.

Now... Being the business man he is (very successful) and knowing the market in Asia, he came up with an idea of a rebrand of the club. I believe that this business plan (to him) would bring in x amount from overseas marketing (merch sales, club tours, showing games ect.) Now with this figure in mind, plus the money coming in from Wales, he saw an opportunity to turn us into a profitable organisation to add to his portfolio, that he could eventually sell off at a massive profit gain.

Now, what he didnt understand was the nature of the business he was getting into, he projected that he could afford to invest £100m into the club, turn the debt to equity ect. ect. and still walk away with a huge lump sum. The people on the board who heard this huge sum of money - in true cartoon style - found their eyes rolling in their heads, and dollar signs replacing their pupils. They advised Tan that we would accept it, and that the re-brand was a GREAT idea! And he happily cracked on with the plans.

This is where Tan goes wrong himself. He announces that the re-brand will not go ahead, because of the opposition, and then, despite this... We find our team running around in a red kit... Then he starts refusing to meet with the fans. He has made a bad decision based on greedy bastards opinions, and now has to save face.
We winthe championship and get promoted, so he must think it'll blow over and people will accept it. Then there are even MORE protests than before. We get relegated, and he STILL feels he has to save face, and will not budge, despite KNOWING full well that the majority of his customers do not want the red. So much so, they are happy for him to f*ck off and take his money with him.

Tan was initially advised badly, and now he still won't listen to the fans.